In conventional training, the e- collar is used as a way to “correct” a dog or apply pressure. Something the dog wants to avoid. It is generally introduced early in training as part of a “whoa” or “stand” command. It’s part of an obedience command. I define an obedience command as one that makes no sense to a dog and is trained through pressure and repetition. The dog learns to obey the command to avoid the pressure of the collar.
My method is different. It’s natural. I let the bird apply the pressure. In our training, dogs learn steadiness naturally with the Magic Brushpile. After just a few sessions, the dogs choose to “stop to flush” and be steady through wing, shot and fall. I don’t use any pressure or introduce a ”whoa” or “stand” command. I don’t have to, the birds have done that for me. Later, when we introduce a “wait for me” cue with a checkcord, it’s not an obedience command. With the Magic Brushpile, the dogs have learned that standing steady makes sense. The dog see it as a good thing that can lead to success.
Using or not using an e-collar is based more on a dog’s personality than anything else. If he has more independence than cooperation bred into him, then it is probably necessary.
Our method encourages the dogs to be cooperative. Cooperation leads to success. Being pack animals, they already know this. Many of the dogs and owner/handlers we work with are able to hunt and/or test their dogs at the highest levels without the use of e-collars.
Brad Higgins

I like what you told me last month Brad. You said that one has not learned to train dogs until he/she has trained and finished a dog without using an e-collar. That kind of patience is rare and that is what makes you special.